RENEGADES-DELTA 5: I was talking to bass player Ray Brown, a musician from Hayes, Middlesex who went on to play with Jeff Curtis & The Flames, The Kool and Magic Roundabout in the 1960s among others and then Easy Virtue and Crackers in the 1970s. He told me that he played in a short-lived group with Nick Simper when Nick was on lead guitar. He remembers going to Nick's house to rehearse and remembers a gig at the Ealing Club. This must have been between the break up of the Renegades and the formation of the Delta Five. Incidentally, Nick's friend Ray Soper was also in Jeff Curtis & The Flames and it was this group that landed the brief job with Johnny Kidd before The New Pirates were formed. It was their drummer, the late Pete Burt (brother of Mick Burt from Cliff Bennett & The Rebel Rousers) who was window cleaning and arranged for the Flames to do a few gigs, including a show at Chatham Naval Docks in late April/early May 1966.